Recently we discussed two stocks from different verticals in packaging Industry. Polyplex from Polyester film based and Mold Teck Packaging from IML packaging sector . This week let us look into another company from a related sub sector – Metal packaging .Even though plastic packaging is gaining more acceptance ,some products still need metal packaging due to special characteristic of products to be packed. Chemical reactions, keeping right nutritional / aesthetic values, requirement of extended shelf life ..etc compelling the producers of certain products to prefer metal packaging.This situation ensures enough room for metal packaging majors to grow though the chances for new entrants are bleak. At present, metal packaging commanding a 10 % market share of total consumer packaging market. In this background, let us look into Hindustan Tin Works Ltd which commanding 20 % of metal packaging market in India. HTWL manufacturing tin/metal cans and closures used in packaging of baby foods, edible oils,paints, ghee, canned food items, fruit pulp,juice,protein powder, shoe polish etc. Company mastered in Aerosol cans and Beverage Cans . Aerosol cans are mainly used to pack Deodorants, Room Fresheners,Pesticides,paints and industrial products .Beverage cans are used to pack Juices,Flavoured milk and other beverages.Longer shelf life without refrigeration and leakage is an added advantage of beverage cans .Company’s major consumers includes the who is who of FMCG and Food Industry like GSK consumer, Nestle, Britannia, Del-Monte Foods , Asian Paints,Reebok ..etc.
Link to Company Website HERE
Disc: It is safe to assume that I have vested interest in HTW
Good pick.Growing urbanisation proxy for package sector?
ReplyDeleteGeneral que. Do you think trading trading business (like aimco, caplin) is more sustainable than manufacturing ( like granuls astec) ? Plz publish and share your views.
ReplyDeleteI don't think there is anything wrong in such asset light business models if they can ensure quality .Even big companies like TTK Prestige ..etc are doing the same to a great extent . By this ,they can effectively utilise their assets for brand building,after sale service and other marketing related activities.The key is -- quality should not be compromised and the supply source should be reliable without any interruption.
DeleteThanks for such a precise answer.
DeleteVP Sir, Your stock picking skills are awesome and your help for investor community is at sky level. As a person you are down to earth.
ReplyDeleteI invested your recommendations earlier (i.e. before Feb) but these days (except Koran) I am not able to buy because of UCs. I cannot buy stocks before 10:30 AM because I work for a MNC Financial company where I have certain restrictions. By the time I got the required approvals, the stock locked in UC for the day. Same story repeat for a week or so.
After a week of your recommendation (i.e. after all UCs ) all your picks appreciate minimum 50%to 60% and I am not sure whether to buy them at those levels. But I am happy that so many investors (like me) can get benefit from this blog.
All the best Sir and all best for our blog readers.
Thanks
Venkata
Euphoria is not good in any case. One should analyse the company in detail and decide upto which rate a stock is worth affodable based on one's risk profile.If the price is beyond that level ,better to skip. This level may be different from paerson to person.
Deletevalue invester jee.
Deletei m big fan of you. luckly i hold hind tin from long time.i always make money on your recomandation but whenever you recomand any scrip scrip goes in UC and very dificult to buy it.
keep it up
Hello sir , im worried about the debt of the hindustan tin works? Whats ur view, plz reply...
ReplyDeleteIt depends on one's risk taking capacity. If you are worried about a company with debt equity ratio of 0.7 without any promoter pledge , you have full freedom to avoid .
DeleteThank you Sir for a good recommendation
ReplyDeletethanks for help small invetor
ReplyDeleteThanks for your good recommendation sir. Curious to know who else are its closest competitors. If i try to get a peer group view on various websites there are a lot of companies which are classified under packaging industry. I am just trying to figure out as to who are the closest competitors in Metal packaging.
ReplyDeleteI don't think there is any strictly comparable peers. Tinplate company of Tata group manufacturing OTS cans but their major income coming from Electrolytic Tinplate sheets.
DeleteKAIRA CAN COMPANY is a comparable peer.
DeleteThank you sir.
DeleteSir Can i buy Panama Petrochem at current levels? Currently Stock is present @60 but book value is Rs.290 also available at 12.6 where as industry pe is around 37. Promoter holding is more than 45%. Also with EPS of 19.10 for FY 14.
ReplyDeleteI think the data is wrong which not reflecting the effect of recent stock split in book value.
DeleteI recommended this stock @ Rs.135 when its FV was Rs.10 .Now FV is Rs.2 and market price is around Rs.60 which means stock already appreciated more than 100 %
http://value-picks.blogspot.in/2013/01/panama-petrochem-ltd-buy.html
very good company good fundamental too.
ReplyDeleteDear VP,
ReplyDeleteKindly share your views on holding companies like Bengal Assam, Bombay Burmah , Tata Investments. ., if any
Regards
Vimal
I am not a big fan of holding companies. We should distinguish Holding companies and Investment companies. Many of the listed holding companies in India are holding the shares of their own group companies. They can't sell these shares because of chance of loosing control. So they will not sell shares and realise profit .Only income is dividend from shares .Here in our country,take over attemps by rivals are very rare .So it it is not attractive even in that way . Otherwise management's of such companies should do value unlocking through de-mergers or so .
DeleteDear vp sir, Pls give ur view on KENAMETAL & FORBES
DeleteThks in advance
Sir. Please share your views on vinyl chemicals india ltd if you are tracking it
ReplyDeletesir, please share ur view for india gelatine
ReplyDeleteIt is an already recommended company @ Rs.66
Deletehttp://value-picks.blogspot.in/2012/07/india-gelatine-chemicals-ltd.html
Not a single pledge
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bseindia.com/corporates/sastpledge_new.aspx?scripcd=530315
And also DE ratio is 0.75
Thank you for the script
How to buy high PE companies?
ReplyDeleteEg; If the company PE @ 35. Industry PE@ 25. Assume, Its ROE @ 30, ROCE @ 50. can we buy the stock ? Means we buy the stocks based on ROE or ROCE?
Trailing P/E is only an indication based on the past
DeleteSir, what is your view on infinite computers?
ReplyDeleteSir Please share your views on Kitex Garments ... I am holding it from Rs 330 level
ReplyDeleteSir..hows manjushree technopack..they are in plastic packaging
ReplyDeleteNot tracking any of the companies mentioned in above three messages.
DeleteDear Sir,Kindly share your views on KAJARIA & VIP
ReplyDeletePositive on kajaria ,not tracking VIP.
DeleteHi vpji I researched Hindustan tin excellent pick!hats off to your stock picking.I am trying to place order to buy bcoz Monday it will shoot up.it is giving error data not available. Can't we place order for it.thanks keep the good working going.
ReplyDeleteRegards
AJINKYA M
VP sir,
ReplyDeleteMy comment is never published. PLEASE Let me know about ANUH PHARMA. whats your view on it...
Please dont insist like that , replay for similar question about same stock answered against some other readers query. I am not tracking it.
DeleteSir what is your view on allied digital services...?
ReplyDeleteDear Vp sir . Please share ur view about CENTURYPLY .
ReplyDeleteSir, Please share your view on menon bearing and CCL products
ReplyDeletePlease let me know your views on Virat Crane Industries, if you track it
ReplyDeletePlease let me know your views in Shetron Ltd if you track it
ReplyDeleteSir. Pl share your views on arvind remedies
ReplyDeleteNot tracking above cos.
DeleteDear Sir,
ReplyDeleteDo you track an auto ancillary company called Omax Autos which has turnover of 1000 Cr but trading at a market cap of just 100 Cr. Company seems to have large assets and the book value is very high. All auto ancillary companies have appreciated substantially and this stock available at mouth watering valuations. Please let me know your opinion about this stock for medium to long term.
Regards,
Jay
Not tracking Omax Autos. Talbros Auto is a decent pick from this sector.
DeleteSo many times asking for you but no respond again please your view upon nitin fire and exide ind
ReplyDeleteDear Mr.VP
ReplyDeleteCould you pl provide the views on Stylam industries which we would like to know,
thanks in advance
Not tracking above cos.
Deleteyour view on Harita seating your old reco?
ReplyDeleteHold
Deletedear vp sir
ReplyDeleteyour old pick jkagri finally firing and also Florence investech :)
Good Morning Sir, what's your view on Network 18 or Media sector?
ReplyDeleteDear VP,
ReplyDeleteThanks for new pick. What is your view on Ingersol Rand I am holding it from 480 level. Your views will be helpful for me to decide. I am ready to hold.
Already recommended @ Rs.450
Deletehttp://value-picks.blogspot.in/2010/11/ingersoll-rand-buy.html
Sir,
DeleteBased on your recommendation and my study, I bought at around 480. I just wanted your view at present whether to hold or book profit. Plz. comment.
Hello VP Sir.. Wanted to know your views on Kiri Industries & Cigniti Technologies for a Long Term Basis.. Say for a years time..
ReplyDeletesir what is you are view on time techno,& neo carp
ReplyDeleteNot tracking the cos mentioned in above two queries.
DeleteDear VP Sir,
ReplyDeleteI would like to have long term views on ALSTOM PROJECTS due to FE deal world wide and future growth potential in hands of GE.
Need your long term views on FDC after amalgamation of 3 subsidiary companies with FDC. I have high opinion on management quality about both companies.
Long term Hold.
DeleteSir, what is current view in Panacea Biotec? AGM is nearing and share placement likely in reasonable future. Can we add or just hold?
ReplyDeleteThose holding from lower level should hold. For fresh entry one need to consider their fund raising plans.
DeleteHelo sir,
ReplyDeleteKindly let me know ur views on gitanjali gema, rei agro, india bulls power and suzlon. It wil be very helpful.
Thanks.
Tracking only Suzlon , risk takers can still hold if having a 2 + year view.
Deletehello sir, your views on CERA and HAWKINS COOKER?
ReplyDeleteSuitable for long term passive investors.
Deletesir can you please share your views on munjal auto and munjal showcase ?
ReplyDeleteReally sad to see the readers/investors are not even spending few seconds to understand the correct name of companies. There is no company in the name " MUNJAL SHOWCASE " . It is Munjal SHOWA Ltd
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Trying my luck third time..... Plz share your view on Electrosteel Casting ltd
ReplyDeleteThanks in advance.....
Sorry Not tracking it
DeleteHello VP Sir,
ReplyDeleteIt would be helpful i you can plz post/reply to my query. I have already tried submitting it twice but it has not been approved by moderator. Reposting the query again:
Dear VP Sir,
I came across your blog recently. Your stock picking abilities are really amazing. Thanks for doing such wonderful service for retail investors like me.
However, if possible, it will be helpful is you can provide some info on HTW:
1) The revenue seems to be stagnant at around Rs.300 cr (+- 10%) from FY 2010 till FY 2014. Request you to plz. provide some more details about their focus on emerging markets that will lead to growth in revenue going forward.
2) D/E is perse not high. However, debt has increased in FY 2014. Is it because of any capacity addition?
3) Valuation is attractive at P/E of 8. However, is it low because of lower ROE/ROCE and almost stagnant revenue?
Your views on above points will be helpful.
(Financials seen from moneycontrol website).
Thanks & Regards
Saurabh
In last three years top line improved from Rs.246 Cr to Rs.314 Cr . We should consider the pathetic economic situation worldwide during past few years along with this .Even in such a situation company could report satisfactory numbers . Now I believe , growth will come back going forward and metal price will be steady .Any growth in consumer spending will indirectly help the company.Due to muted demand growth HTWL could not pass increase in cost to its customers in last few years , this may change in future.
DeleteThere is not much increase in long term borrowings , total debt level increased only due to increase in short term loan for working capital availed on the personal gurantee of three promoters.
Sir Plz share ur views on Whirlpool n Punj Loyd
DeleteRespected Sir
ReplyDeleteI am a homeopath in delhi and very big fan of yourself for your hard work and Reseach and humbly sharing it with others ,Sir i want to know about new emerging company AVT NATURALS which is listed in FORBES list of best 200 companies if u can i shall be oblidged.
Pls, pls dont waste VP's time, why dont you search this blog b4 writing ? AVT was recommended long time ago, but now not favoured, the reason also u will find if u use search option.
Deletehttp://value-picks.blogspot.com/search?q=avt
VP Ji, i am your new follower, wish to know your views on Repro India and Sasken Communications?
ReplyDeleteSir I missed to buy Suzlon when you recommended earlier.. Can it be bought now? I am extreme long term investor. Regards
ReplyDeleteIf it is not confidential , do you mind sharing what was the question you asked Bilcare and what response they gave
ReplyDeleteHi Sir,
ReplyDeleteTrying my luck again as this stock has started showing growth since past a few weeks. Parabolic Drugs from pharma sector. What are your views on this stock?
Vp g
ReplyDeleteWhats ur view on "enkei wheels"
sir,when u recommend the stock it got an upper circuit so there is no profit for us! sorry to say but these calls are of no use.
ReplyDeleteSirjee, Do you track Prima Plastics, if so could you please share yuor view on this stock on a long term investors point of view.
ReplyDeleteThanks
Dear sir..
ReplyDeleteWhat is your view on Mirza international and Dynemic products
Sir, Could you please guide to understand what does Contingent Liabilities mean.
ReplyDeleteThanks
Contingent liabilities means they are not the actual liabilities but they can become actual lliability for the company at a future date on certain circumstances. Ex: Bank guarantee issued by the bank on behalf of the firm to third party is a contingent liability on bank's balance sheet. But when the firm fails to meet the performance the third party will claim the compensation from the bank and the contingent liability will become actual liability.
DeleteHere you go - http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/contingentliability.asp
Deletegoogle would hav answered :-)
Sir I think my previous message did not reach you...I had a query on srei infra, nmdc and south Indian bank... Could you please give your comments...thanks
ReplyDeleteNot tracking any of these stocks
DeleteHow is IDFC from long term pespective (2 years or more)?
ReplyDeleteAlready recommended stock , use search option.
DeleteSir,
ReplyDeleteWhat are your views on
1. Kanpur Platipacks
2. AMD Industries
Both are from packaging sector. It this good level to enter these stocks?
Thanks.
Sir please reply my msg. I m trying for third time. I want to know abt neo corp int. And whether we can compare it with hind. Tin.thank you
ReplyDeleteNot tracking this stock. Any idea why promoter holding is too less ?
DeleteHi Vp
ReplyDeleteI see no pont in giving calls if they are to benefit retail investors. The moment you give a call there are no selleres and hence UC. Then the stock appreciates 40-80% and then it holds very less meaning to get into it..
Will it be possible for you to give calls randomly without announcing when you are doing that...
I beleive this willl lead to graduall buying and selling which is good for everyone unless you want it to move in UC's only....
Hope this gets published
Reason explained at least ten times . See reply below the posting of Capital First
DeleteHi VAluepick
ReplyDeleteWhat are yuor views on Aro Granite industries?
Thanks
My stand on Granite and Marble companies already mentioned below the posting of SMS Pharma - Update today morning itself.
DeleteSorry VP could not find it..
DeleteAmazed to see people r still asking quries about other stocks ....why u people cant invest and sit quite in vp sir recommendations. ....many of which r still at very attractive valuations.....how much money u people have to invest in?????
ReplyDeleteHi VP Sir,
ReplyDeleteHow do you read the quarterly result of Hind Tin Works? From what I read, it doesn't look convincing to me.
Regards
Srigopal Daliya
Dear VP
ReplyDeleteWhats your take on sale of Turkey PET plan by Polyplex. Management has opined that the deal will be cash accretive and proceeds will be used to reduce the leverage.
Regards